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	<title>Comments on: TB experiment: another day, another quirk</title>
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	<description>Bits on the rampage: Eric Shepherd's blog.</description>
	<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: K</title>
		<link>http://www.bitstampede.com/2006/09/20/tb-experiment-another-day-another-quirk/comment-page-1/#comment-4645</link>
		<dc:creator>K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 04:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh crap I did the drag and drop attachment into the message body thing, and it DELETED MY FILE.  The body of the email says the text  location of the file I wanted to attach, but the link doesn't go anywhere and now MY FILE IS GONE!!!  What am I supposed to do now???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh crap I did the drag and drop attachment into the message body thing, and it DELETED MY FILE.  The body of the email says the text  location of the file I wanted to attach, but the link doesn&#8217;t go anywhere and now MY FILE IS GONE!!!  What am I supposed to do now???</p>
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		<title>By: sheppy</title>
		<link>http://www.bitstampede.com/2006/09/20/tb-experiment-another-day-another-quirk/comment-page-1/#comment-877</link>
		<dc:creator>sheppy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 19:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree; HTML email blows.  I don't want images embedded.  I want to just drag them into the content to attach them.  And I like viewing them inline, too, for that matter, although that's not as big a deal to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree; HTML email blows.  I don&#8217;t want images embedded.  I want to just drag them into the content to attach them.  And I like viewing them inline, too, for that matter, although that&#8217;s not as big a deal to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
		<link>http://www.bitstampede.com/2006/09/20/tb-experiment-another-day-another-quirk/comment-page-1/#comment-876</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 17:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'd prefer the option to use the OSX address book as well.  I don't like the emal program having it's own little hidden address book, because there are situations where I would like other programs to have access to those contacts.  This is actually the single biggest reason I switched from TB to Apple Mail on my ibook, and from TB to Evolution on my Ubuntu-based PC.

As for imbedded images, ugh.  I always want everything attached because I'm a plain text email nut.  If it were left to me, html emails would be banned.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d prefer the option to use the OSX address book as well.  I don&#8217;t like the emal program having it&#8217;s own little hidden address book, because there are situations where I would like other programs to have access to those contacts.  This is actually the single biggest reason I switched from TB to Apple Mail on my ibook, and from TB to Evolution on my Ubuntu-based PC.</p>
<p>As for imbedded images, ugh.  I always want everything attached because I&#8217;m a plain text email nut.  If it were left to me, html emails would be banned.  <img src='http://www.bitstampede.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: sheppy</title>
		<link>http://www.bitstampede.com/2006/09/20/tb-experiment-another-day-another-quirk/comment-page-1/#comment-858</link>
		<dc:creator>sheppy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 15:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't like the idea of just syncing to the OS X address book particularly; it's pretty easy to link right into it, so I'm unclear on any reasons not to do it.

I will post a list of affiliated bug links once I'm done going through all this stuff.  Probably will look for existing bugs and file new ones as necessary today or tomorrow, and will post a list then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t like the idea of just syncing to the OS X address book particularly; it&#8217;s pretty easy to link right into it, so I&#8217;m unclear on any reasons not to do it.</p>
<p>I will post a list of affiliated bug links once I&#8217;m done going through all this stuff.  Probably will look for existing bugs and file new ones as necessary today or tomorrow, and will post a list then.</p>
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		<title>By: Axel Hecht</title>
		<link>http://www.bitstampede.com/2006/09/20/tb-experiment-another-day-another-quirk/comment-page-1/#comment-857</link>
		<dc:creator>Axel Hecht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 10:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ian, is there a bug or another reference as to why using the apple address book would be a bad idea?

Actually, there seems to be a patch by peterv in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=203927 (don't comment, unless you have something on the patch there, just to save Peter's life), to get at least read access.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian, is there a bug or another reference as to why using the apple address book would be a bad idea?</p>
<p>Actually, there seems to be a patch by peterv in <a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=203927" rel="nofollow">https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=203927</a> (don&#8217;t comment, unless you have something on the patch there, just to save Peter&#8217;s life), to get at least read access.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://www.bitstampede.com/2006/09/20/tb-experiment-another-day-another-quirk/comment-page-1/#comment-856</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 09:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for the comment-spam :D just wanted each distinct subject separate.

Last thing for now - could you, when you are done, come up with a list of bugzilla bugs that match all the issues you've brought up, in a nice overview somewhere? At the least, it will be useful for tracking these issues, at best, it could serve as a 'call to arms' to deal with them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for the comment-spam <img src='http://www.bitstampede.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> just wanted each distinct subject separate.</p>
<p>Last thing for now - could you, when you are done, come up with a list of bugzilla bugs that match all the issues you&#8217;ve brought up, in a nice overview somewhere? At the least, it will be useful for tracking these issues, at best, it could serve as a &#8216;call to arms&#8217; to deal with them.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://www.bitstampede.com/2006/09/20/tb-experiment-another-day-another-quirk/comment-page-1/#comment-855</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 09:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With regards to the Apple Address book - reasons have been given why using this as the TB address book would be a bad idea. However, there's a few options here that aren't just "use it" or "ignore it".

TB should be able to import the Apple address book into its main address book. There are considerations to be made, such as:

- is this a one time import or does it need to be kept in sync?
- does it overwrite your TB address book?
- if kept in sync, what happens when you delete an entry from the Apple Address book? (probably, it should be able to delete it from the TB address book unless it's been [1] used there and/or [2] added there from another source)

A way to export (preferably automatically) to the apple address book would also undoubtedly be handy. Similar issues to the above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With regards to the Apple Address book - reasons have been given why using this as the TB address book would be a bad idea. However, there&#8217;s a few options here that aren&#8217;t just &#8220;use it&#8221; or &#8220;ignore it&#8221;.</p>
<p>TB should be able to import the Apple address book into its main address book. There are considerations to be made, such as:</p>
<p>- is this a one time import or does it need to be kept in sync?<br />
- does it overwrite your TB address book?<br />
- if kept in sync, what happens when you delete an entry from the Apple Address book? (probably, it should be able to delete it from the TB address book unless it&#8217;s been [1] used there and/or [2] added there from another source)</p>
<p>A way to export (preferably automatically) to the apple address book would also undoubtedly be handy. Similar issues to the above.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://www.bitstampede.com/2006/09/20/tb-experiment-another-day-another-quirk/comment-page-1/#comment-854</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 09:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could we check first if it's embeddable in the email, then attach it or embed it as appropriate?

Having checked what Outlook does, it seems to just attach everything, including images. I think dragging images into the email should embed them rather than attach them. Images can still be attached using the previous two mechanisms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could we check first if it&#8217;s embeddable in the email, then attach it or embed it as appropriate?</p>
<p>Having checked what Outlook does, it seems to just attach everything, including images. I think dragging images into the email should embed them rather than attach them. Images can still be attached using the previous two mechanisms.</p>
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		<title>By: sheppy</title>
		<link>http://www.bitstampede.com/2006/09/20/tb-experiment-another-day-another-quirk/comment-page-1/#comment-853</link>
		<dc:creator>sheppy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 04:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mail embeds images, but since you can drag and drop them out of a received message, that's perfectly usable.  Plus there's an option to display images inline or as attachments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mail embeds images, but since you can drag and drop them out of a received message, that&#8217;s perfectly usable.  Plus there&#8217;s an option to display images inline or as attachments.</p>
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		<title>By: Jed</title>
		<link>http://www.bitstampede.com/2006/09/20/tb-experiment-another-day-another-quirk/comment-page-1/#comment-851</link>
		<dc:creator>Jed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 00:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good call, I've always dragged it into the address box, but you are right. I think any file dropped into the compose part should be attached. The issue here though is what do you do when a user drops an image? Should it go in-line or be attached? I think both, but that is just me. How does Mail handle dropping images?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good call, I&#8217;ve always dragged it into the address box, but you are right. I think any file dropped into the compose part should be attached. The issue here though is what do you do when a user drops an image? Should it go in-line or be attached? I think both, but that is just me. How does Mail handle dropping images?</p>
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