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		<title>By: ????? ? ????? &#187; Diff/Patch Language Module for BBEdit and TextWrangler</title>
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		<dc:creator>????? ? ????? &#187; Diff/Patch Language Module for BBEdit and TextWrangler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 19:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of you who spend lots of time in BBEdit/TextWrangler with Mozilla .idl files, sheppy has a nice IDL language module [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of you who spend lots of time in BBEdit/TextWrangler with Mozilla .idl files, sheppy has a nice IDL language module [...]</p>
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		<title>By: sheppy</title>
		<link>http://www.bitstampede.com/2007/08/15/idl-in-bbedit/comment-page-1/#comment-37966</link>
		<dc:creator>sheppy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 20:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trent,

I&#039;ll be honest... I really don&#039;t have an answer for you.  I like the relatively simple and uncluttered appearance of a standalone text editor; however, most IDEs do have modes that look like that.  I guess it&#039;s just a matter of BBEdit/TextWrangler being what I&#039;ve used for a long time now.

If I&#039;m working on a project, I use an IDE (Xcode usually -- my non-Mozilla work is pretty much all Mac code), although I&#039;ve installed Komodo and a couple of others to look at, I&#039;ve not had time to do so yet).  But when I&#039;m writing docs, which is what I usually do, it&#039;s often easier to just &quot;bbedit idlfilenamehere&quot; from Terminal and start reading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trent,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be honest&#8230; I really don&#8217;t have an answer for you.  I like the relatively simple and uncluttered appearance of a standalone text editor; however, most IDEs do have modes that look like that.  I guess it&#8217;s just a matter of BBEdit/TextWrangler being what I&#8217;ve used for a long time now.</p>
<p>If I&#8217;m working on a project, I use an IDE (Xcode usually &#8212; my non-Mozilla work is pretty much all Mac code), although I&#8217;ve installed Komodo and a couple of others to look at, I&#8217;ve not had time to do so yet).  But when I&#8217;m writing docs, which is what I usually do, it&#8217;s often easier to just &#8220;bbedit idlfilenamehere&#8221; from Terminal and start reading.</p>
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		<title>By: Seth Dillingham</title>
		<link>http://www.bitstampede.com/2007/08/15/idl-in-bbedit/comment-page-1/#comment-37964</link>
		<dc:creator>Seth Dillingham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 20:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had hoped that you could get my email address from the field where I entered it with my comment. :-)

(Apparently you did, I have received your message.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had hoped that you could get my email address from the field where I entered it with my comment. <img src='http://www.bitstampede.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>(Apparently you did, I have received your message.)</p>
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		<title>By: Trent Mick</title>
		<link>http://www.bitstampede.com/2007/08/15/idl-in-bbedit/comment-page-1/#comment-37946</link>
		<dc:creator>Trent Mick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 16:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sheppy,

(fine print: I&#039;m a Komodo developer)

What for you makes the difference between IDE and &quot;standalone text editor&quot;? Is it things like speed of starting up and memory footprint or is it a feeling that an IDE might dictate project/solution/perspective usage, debugging infrastructure, code generation, locked in build system, &quot;stuff&quot; that gets in the way?

My usage of Komodo tends to be mainly as just a (good) text editor and a lot of effort is made in Komodo to keep it very usable that way (open a file and start editing -- all the rest is just sugar). I&#039;d like to understand whether some concept of what &quot;IDE&quot; implies colors your impression of Komodo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sheppy,</p>
<p>(fine print: I&#8217;m a Komodo developer)</p>
<p>What for you makes the difference between IDE and &#8220;standalone text editor&#8221;? Is it things like speed of starting up and memory footprint or is it a feeling that an IDE might dictate project/solution/perspective usage, debugging infrastructure, code generation, locked in build system, &#8220;stuff&#8221; that gets in the way?</p>
<p>My usage of Komodo tends to be mainly as just a (good) text editor and a lot of effort is made in Komodo to keep it very usable that way (open a file and start editing &#8212; all the rest is just sugar). I&#8217;d like to understand whether some concept of what &#8220;IDE&#8221; implies colors your impression of Komodo.</p>
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		<title>By: sheppy</title>
		<link>http://www.bitstampede.com/2007/08/15/idl-in-bbedit/comment-page-1/#comment-37944</link>
		<dc:creator>sheppy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 16:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s hoping you read this comment, Seth, since I don&#039;t have your email address and there&#039;s not one on your web site that I can find! :)

Yes, please -- I could sure use the help from an expert at writing these things.  Being at Mozilla, open source has particular appeal to me, so that&#039;d be a great way to go (not to mention it&#039;d make a nice example for others).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s hoping you read this comment, Seth, since I don&#8217;t have your email address and there&#8217;s not one on your web site that I can find! <img src='http://www.bitstampede.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Yes, please &#8212; I could sure use the help from an expert at writing these things.  Being at Mozilla, open source has particular appeal to me, so that&#8217;d be a great way to go (not to mention it&#8217;d make a nice example for others).</p>
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		<title>By: Seth Dillingham</title>
		<link>http://www.bitstampede.com/2007/08/15/idl-in-bbedit/comment-page-1/#comment-37935</link>
		<dc:creator>Seth Dillingham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 14:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, I&#039;m the guy who&#039;s been writing all of the language modules for BBEdit lately. In the last year, I&#039;ve produced full language modules for JavaScript, Lua, Python, TeX, SQL, Strings files, Markdown, Java and YAML.

I&#039;d be happy to help with the IDL module. I could either get you started, provide guidance, do the whole thing and send you the code, or we could do it as an open-source project hosted at the site of your choice. Or I could buzz off and mind my own business, if that&#039;s your preference.

Send me an email if you&#039;d like my involvement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I&#8217;m the guy who&#8217;s been writing all of the language modules for BBEdit lately. In the last year, I&#8217;ve produced full language modules for JavaScript, Lua, Python, TeX, SQL, Strings files, Markdown, Java and YAML.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be happy to help with the IDL module. I could either get you started, provide guidance, do the whole thing and send you the code, or we could do it as an open-source project hosted at the site of your choice. Or I could buzz off and mind my own business, if that&#8217;s your preference.</p>
<p>Send me an email if you&#8217;d like my involvement.</p>
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		<title>By: sheppy</title>
		<link>http://www.bitstampede.com/2007/08/15/idl-in-bbedit/comment-page-1/#comment-37855</link>
		<dc:creator>sheppy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 21:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know there are people that like TextMate, but I can&#039;t stand it.  It feels like a cute little toy to me instead of a real editor.  Don&#039;t know why.  Just feels totally unusable every time I try it.

Personal preference thing, I guess.

Komodo is a good piece of software, but when I&#039;m just doing edits and viewing of individual files, I generally prefer a standalone text editor instead of a full-fledged IDE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know there are people that like TextMate, but I can&#8217;t stand it.  It feels like a cute little toy to me instead of a real editor.  Don&#8217;t know why.  Just feels totally unusable every time I try it.</p>
<p>Personal preference thing, I guess.</p>
<p>Komodo is a good piece of software, but when I&#8217;m just doing edits and viewing of individual files, I generally prefer a standalone text editor instead of a full-fledged IDE.</p>
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		<title>By: Myk Melez</title>
		<link>http://www.bitstampede.com/2007/08/15/idl-in-bbedit/comment-page-1/#comment-37849</link>
		<dc:creator>Myk Melez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 20:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IDL syntax highlighting is built into &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.activestate.com/products/komodo_ide/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Komodo IDE&lt;/a&gt; (and its free cousin &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.activestate.com/products/komodo_edit/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Komodo Edit&lt;/a&gt;).  Komodo also does syntax highlighting for a bevy of other Mozilla languages (XUL, XBL, etc.).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IDL syntax highlighting is built into <a href="http://www.activestate.com/products/komodo_ide/" rel="nofollow">Komodo IDE</a> (and its free cousin <a href="http://www.activestate.com/products/komodo_edit/" rel="nofollow">Komodo Edit</a>).  Komodo also does syntax highlighting for a bevy of other Mozilla languages (XUL, XBL, etc.).</p>
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		<title>By: Håkan Waara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Håkan Waara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 18:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, people still use BBEdit? ;-)

I really recommend TextMate! Seems like there&#039;s actually an IDL bundle available (http://macromates.com/wiki/Bundles/IDL). It&#039;s not shipped by default, so one has to download it and install it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, people still use BBEdit? <img src='http://www.bitstampede.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I really recommend TextMate! Seems like there&#8217;s actually an IDL bundle available (<a href="http://macromates.com/wiki/Bundles/IDL" rel="nofollow">http://macromates.com/wiki/Bundles/IDL</a>). It&#8217;s not shipped by default, so one has to download it and install it.</p>
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