Sep 192006
 

To my surprise, I’ve not gotten so frustrated with TB yet that I’ve reverted back to Mail. This is now the longest I’ve lasted in TB before doing so. Yay Thunderbird!

The latest little gripe: windows that pop up that I really wish wouldn’t.

I don’t want a window to pop up showing the status of sending a message. It seems to me the message should just send silently in the background, and I should have an icon that shows up in the status bar of the main window if there are any errors.

Likewise, I don’t want alerts to pop up every time an account connection times out. This happens all the time, and I just don’t care. I want it to fail silently, with, again, maybe an icon that appears in the status bar that I can click for details on any errors that have occurred.

I’d also like to be able to get rid of the little dragger handle at the bottom of the message list; I never use the preview pane and would like to reclaim those few pixels at the bottom. This isn’t a big deal, obviously, but it’s ever-so-slightly distracting that the bottom of the folder pane and the bottom of the message list pane don’t line up.

For that matter, just for a prettiness thing, I’d actually like the top of the folder list box to move down to line up with the top of the message list. This is just another silly little thing that I think could make the window look nicer. Not a big deal either way, though.

For a change of pace, a few things I do like about Thunderbird. I like that folders with new messages are shown in blue. I like that you can configure it to recognize and trust the information provided by SpamAssassin, which my own mail server uses.
I would like to be able to tell the spam filter to automatically delete messages written in scripts I can’t (or don’t want to) read. For example, my Japanese is painfully rusty, so it’s safe to assume that messages in that are spam. And I only studied Russian for a few days, so that can go too. Chinese I’ve never even tried to learn, having finally realized after attempting Japanese and Russian that I don’t have that kind of time. Given that almost half my spam is arriving in these languages these days, it would be nice to have those all tossed automatically.

 Posted by at 10:33 AM

  13 Responses to “TB experiment: window overload”

  1. Getting rid of the gripper is pretty easy: View > Layout > Message Pane

  2. The gripper is still there at the bottom of the window when I do this. :)

  3. On WinXP at least, to move the sending status from a separate window to the status bar of the message, set “mailnews.show_send_progress” to “false”.

  4. Hey, there we go. Thanks!

    This is the kind of thing that makes me wish we didn’t have to use the about:config type window for so much stuff.

  5. Yay, you’re still going strong – cool!

    > …wish we didn’t have to use the about:config type window for so much stuff.
    We all want something different. That’s the cool part.

    It should just get a bit more beginner-friendly and less bugging; like you stated; less OK-popups.

  6. Actually, what would be a huge help would be tooltips on each item in the about:config window that would explain what that setting does.

  7. > Likewise, I don’t want alerts to pop up every time an account
    > connection times out. This happens all the time, and I just don’t
    > care. I want it to fail silently, with, again, maybe an icon that
    > appears in the status bar that I can click for details on any errors
    > that have occurred.

    An alternative would be to use Firefox’ yellow notification boxes.

  8. No, you cannot assume that a message written in a given charset is always spam only based on the charset. Your Japanese contacts will also send mails in english in iso-2022-jp because that charset contains ascii chars. So a spam filter for a charset like iso-2022-jp should at least compute the ratio between ascii (if existing in that charset) and non-ascii chars and decide if it’s a spam or not if the ratio is too low.

  9. I agree about the sending progress window. See bug 218557.

  10. I don’t have any friends that send mail in iso-2022-jp, so I’d like messages sent in that automatically classified as junk. :)

  11. then it’s trivial !!! just add a new filter to your inbox catching all mails having a Content-Type field or a body containing “iso-2022-jp” and moving it to the junk folder !!! That will catch almost all japonese messages.

  12. “I’d actually like the top of the folder list box to move down to line up with the top of the message list.”

    If you want the two panes to line up, remove the Search Bar (View > Toolbars).

    P.S. Thanks for documenting your experience with Thunderbird. Like you, I periodically try it out. So far it hasn’t convinced me to stay put, although it has promise…

  13. TB2 is starting to look a lot better, although I’ve not put it through its paces yet. I may do a second attempt at this experiment when TB2 reaches beta.